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Как переехать в столицуЯ родилась и выросла в Днепродзержинске.
А потом взяла и махнула в Киев, о чем ни разу не жалела.
Мои приятели, днепродзержинцы, часто не понимают, как мне хватило смелости и многие, я знаю, мечтают повторить мой... кхм...  подвиг. Я с удовольствием делюсь опытом.

Моя первая зарплата в столице была в три раза выше, чем на Родине и мамины подружки даже думали, что я пошла по наклонной. Когда вы наивный провинциал, вам кажется, что труднее всего в столице будет найти работу, а на самом деле, труднее всего найти  жилье. Еще кажется, что в Киеве все обожают украинский язык, а в реальности здесь его редко встретишь и вообще многие считают его языком селян. В общем, я знаю еще миллион секретов про Киев и планирую ими делиться с земляками. Чтоб знали наших.

Если можно мне постить в этом сообществе на киевскую тему, буду рада :) 

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[info]lord_xenon wrote:
Jun. 16th, 2010 05:31 pm (UTC)
"вообще многие считают его языком селян"
Да ну?
[info]m_u_s_k_a wrote:
Jun. 16th, 2010 08:52 pm (UTC)
Правда-правда. Смотришь телевизор и кажется, будто все в Киеве говорят только на государственном или хотя бы стремятся. А на самом деле по-украински говорят только приезжие и студенты института культуры Поплавского.
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[info]demlazy wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 07:57 am (UTC)
Тут такое дело.
В общем, если днепродымец добрался до жж, то до Киева ему и подавно рукой подать. Но ты все равно пиши.
[info]m_u_s_k_a wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 08:15 am (UTC)
:))) Спасибо :)
[info]a_r_t_e_m wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 08:26 am (UTC)
интересно.
[info]m_u_s_k_a wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 08:28 am (UTC)
Спасибо :)
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[info]skagenij wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 08:46 am (UTC)
ржач
бгг ви у нас городская із Днєпродзержинска
[info]m_u_s_k_a wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 08:48 am (UTC)
Re: ржач
Вы комплексуете по этому поводу? :)
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[info]dubchack wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 09:21 am (UTC)
я корінна Киянка. це нічого, що українською пишу?
[info]m_u_s_k_a wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 10:10 am (UTC)
А где вы учились и где родились ваши родители?
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[info]m_u_s_k_a wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 09:24 am (UTC)
Я пока отойду, ребятки :) Но через часик всем отвечу :)
[info]doctor_juta wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 09:28 am (UTC)
Возвращайся назад. А лутше свали в Россию. Там будеш жить спокойнее без "язика селян".
[info]dubchack wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 09:29 am (UTC)
кому вона там потрібна? вона там раз "шокне" і поїде назад.
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[info]angizij wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 09:36 am (UTC)
я вот понехал в Киев из Днепропетровской области ( из Новомосковщины ), разговариваю в основном на украинском, собеседники стараются тоже переходить на украинский.

у Киевлян есть любовь к украинскому, но они не могут от так взять и все вместе перейти на него. привычка сильнее.
[info]m_u_s_k_a wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 10:01 am (UTC)
Любовь, может быть и есть, но стереотип об украинском, как языке приезжих, существует так же.
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(Anonymous) wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 09:39 am (UTC)
"многие считают его языком селян" - это феерично, браво!
[info]heymdal_85 wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 10:52 am (UTC)
мля.. XD))) Рыдаю с этих колхозниц

"Село" - это такие как, вы. Вне зависимости от языка, на котором говорят )))
[info]kiev_ru wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 12:13 pm (UTC)
Ни для кого не является секретом, что городские жители на Украине (за исключением ЗУ) всегда говорили по-русски. Это обусловлено многими факторами. Сейчас не хочу на этом особо заострять внимание. Но это непреложный факт.

И в том, что Муська сказала о языке селян, нет ничего оскорбительного. Те же, кого это как-то задело, скорее всего страшно комплексуют. Успокойтесь и приведите нервы в порядок!

Теперь что касается Киева. Тут всегда по-русски говорили. И говорят. Нравится кому-то это или не нравится. На украинском говорит телевизор, школа и ВУЗы из-под палки и приезжие с ЗУ.

Обратите внимание, на каком языке объявления. Это Киев.

[info]lord_xenon wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 12:21 pm (UTC)
А то, что она сказала, что большинство киевлян не любит и надменно относится к приезжим?)
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[info]karno86 wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 03:38 pm (UTC)
Хе-хе... Ну, молодь мовою мало говорить. Але 10 відсотків є, і більшість із моїх друзів і знайомих - україномовні. А багато хто "флюгерствує".
Але я от з народження живу в Києві і з 17 років говорю українською зі всіма -і якісь там ультранаціоналістичні почуття ні при чому, мені це просто в кайф. До 17-ти ж - розмовляв двома мовами.
[info]rakafon wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 04:41 pm (UTC)
Простите, но вы - мазохист!
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[info]rakafon wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 04:39 pm (UTC)
Мушке - респект! Пиши ещё!
[info]m_u_s_k_a wrote:
Jun. 18th, 2010 08:19 am (UTC)
Спасибо, rakafon
[info]zero_flag wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 04:47 pm (UTC)
а в какой сфрере вы вращяетесь, дэвушка, делая такие сомнительные выводы?
[info]m_u_s_k_a wrote:
Jun. 18th, 2010 08:21 am (UTC)
Это журналисты, архитекторы, инженеры, художники, дизайнеры. Нормальная вроде сфера общения
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[info]daemanuhr wrote:
Jun. 17th, 2010 07:31 pm (UTC)
понаехавшее жлобье с какого-то мухосранска доставляет
[info]divadii wrote:
Jun. 18th, 2010 06:55 am (UTC)
Не знаю, что там в Киеве делается...
Расскажу о своем родном Херсоне.
Конечно, русскоязычном процентов на 90.

Причем, Херсонская область - украиноязычная процентов на 80.

Когда на нашу фирму (оперативная полиграфия) заходит человек и задает вопрос на русском языке... - то это абсолютно ни о чем не говорит. К нему еще надо "присмотреться", прислушаться, понять - кто он, чем дышит...

Но когда заходит человек и розмовляє мовою, то сразу понятно:
скоріше за все це письменник, викладач, журналіст... Тобто інтелігентная людина. Тобто - наша людина! :))

І відразу - на душі теплішає. Відразу настрій піднімається.

Поймите меня правильно - я сама русскоязычная, дома разговариваем на русском. И думаю в основном на русском тоже.

До речі, якщо комусь треба...
На порталі Просвіти Херсонщини є аргументи на захист однієї державної мови, проти другої державної.
[info]rakafon wrote:
Jun. 18th, 2010 02:31 pm (UTC)
Re: Не знаю, что там в Киеве делается...
Да, я кстати это тоже заметил. Если человек пришёл собеседоваться и говорит по-русски, то тут всё как обычно: выясняется профессиональный уровень, опыт, умения, навыки в интересующей сфере, то бишь к человеку, как вы выразились прислушиваются, присматриваются, кто он, чем дышит и т.д. Но если человек пришёл и сразу тарабанит по-украински, всем мгновенно становится ясно, что разговаривать с ним собственно не о чем, т.к. он либо до своего совершеннолетия ни разу родной хутор не покидал да ни с чем окромя вымя/лопаты обращаться не могёт априори, либо двинутый на всю голову свидомит, который трещит в русской среде по-украински чисто из принципа. Для приличия такого украиномовного собеседуют (ну чтоб сходу не посылать человека в шоколадные долины), но на работу никогда не приглашают - ибо нам свинопасы или умалишёные оранжоиды на работе нахрен не сдались!
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[info]ihtiandrlunohod wrote:
Jun. 19th, 2010 04:28 am (UTC)
стока шума из-за какой-то муськи из днепродзержинска...
тю....
[info]m_u_s_k_a wrote:
Jun. 19th, 2010 05:28 am (UTC)
Вот стану тысячницей, будет вам стыдно :)
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[info]gloria_ma wrote:
Jun. 20th, 2010 12:09 am (UTC)
Понаїхало тут в Київ селюків з Днєпродзєржіцка.
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